I'm not receiving emails individually, only digests, is that how majordomo was set by default? _________________________________________________________________ Free web site and shopping cart. http://www.wirescale.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: balloon-admin@balloonboard.org > [mailto:balloon-admin@balloonboard.org]On Behalf Of > balloon-request@balloonboard.org > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 7:25 PM > To: balloon@balloonboard.org > Subject: Balloon digest, Vol 1 #51 - 6 msgs > > > Send Balloon mailing list submissions to > balloon@balloonboard.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://balloonboard.org/mailman/listinfo/balloon > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > balloon-request@balloonboard.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > balloon-admin@balloonboard.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Balloon digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. husaberg downage (Jenny Hopkins) > 2. RE: Processor update to XScale (Solutions IT WireScale) > 3. Re: Processor update to XScale (Steve Wiseman) > 4. Re: Processor update to XScale (Wookey) > 5. RE: Re: Processor update to XScale (Nick Bane) > 6. Re: Re: Processor update to XScale (Steve Wiseman) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:54:03 +0100 > From: "Jenny Hopkins" > To: "Balloon@Balloonboard.Org" > Subject: [Balloon] husaberg downage > > Dear=20Ballooners, > > I=20have=20to=20take=20husaberg=20(www.toby-churchill.org)=20offline=20for= > =20maintenance=20for=20a=20short=20while.=20=20 > I=20suggest=20I=20do=20this=20on=20this=20coming=20Friday,=20Fri=2010th=20= > September,=20from=20around=209.30=20a.m.=20=20If=20all=20goes=20well=20it=20= > should=20be=20back=20up=20and=20running=20within=20a=20few=20hours. > > Thanks, > Jenny > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This=20email=20has=20been=20scanned=20by=20the=20MessageLabs=20Email=20Sec= > urity=20System. > For=20more=20information=20please=20visit=20http://www.messagelabs.com/ema= > il=20 > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "Solutions IT WireScale" > To: > Subject: RE: [Balloon] Processor update to XScale > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:25:27 -0400 > > sounds good... > > I called 2 distributors here in the US (and Canada) http://www.digikey.ca & > http://www.future.ca to ask them about pxa270 availability. The first only have > pxa255 and the second neither of them! > > I'm very interested and ready to contribute/volunteer in the dev/test > of balloon3. > Is that possible? > > btw, are you planning to add integrated ethernet support to balloon3? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Free web site and shopping cart. > http://www.wirescale.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Bane [mailto:nick@cecomputing.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 4:32 PM > To: Solutions IT WireScale; balloon@balloonboard.org > Subject: RE: [Balloon] Processor update to XScale > > > > > > I'm new to the list... > > > > Since StrongARM 1110 becomes unavailable, are you planning to > > update the board > > processor to Xscale? > > > We have an Intel mainstone dev board for pxa270. > I have ported much of 2.6.8.1 to use it and have memory, audio and usb master > running with some pcmcia and mmc infrastructure too. > > > If yes, which XScale processor and when the update would be available? > > > pxa270. Target launch to the massess at Xmas. Development of balloon3 > has started. > > Nick > > > Are you planning to develop your own processor, since processor > > lifetime is short, > > using an existing IP-core or something like that. Not sure if it > > is possible > > though... > > > > thanks > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Free web site and shopping cart. > > http://www.wirescale.com/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Balloon mailing list > > Balloon@balloonboard.org > > http://balloonboard.org/mailman/listinfo/balloon > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: Steve Wiseman > To: balloon@balloonboard.org > Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 09:45:31 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Balloon] Processor update to XScale > > 08/09/2004 04:25:27, "Solutions IT WireScale" > wrote: > > >I called 2 distributors here in the US (and Canada) > http://www.digikey.ca & > >http://www.future.ca to ask them about pxa270 availability. The > first only have > >pxa255 and the second neither of them! > > Yeah, but they're both pretty broad-line distributors. The silicon > does seem to be available from the specialists. > > >I'm very interested and ready to contribute/volunteer in the > dev/test of balloon3. > >Is that possible? > > Possibly - what's your area? > > >btw, are you planning to add integrated ethernet support to > balloon3? > > Tricky. I'm trying to keep Balloon3 cheaper & easier to > manufacture than Balloon2 was. Adding chips to the board which > not everyone wants, and which can be added at least as cheaply > on a CF card, needs some justification. The only reason I'd fit > Ethernet on the board would be to get Power-over-Ethernet, > which you don't get from a CF card. > I'm prepared to be convinced otherwise, but, for the moment, no > built-in Ethernet... > > Steve > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:57:49 +0100 > From: Wookey > To: Balloon > Organization: Aleph One Ltd > Subject: [Balloon] Re: Processor update to XScale > > +++ Steve Wiseman [04-09-08 09:45 +0100]: > > > >btw, are you planning to add integrated ethernet support to > > balloon3? > > > > Tricky. I'm trying to keep Balloon3 cheaper & easier to > > manufacture than Balloon2 was. Adding chips to the board which > > not everyone wants, and which can be added at least as cheaply > > on a CF card, needs some justification. The only reason I'd fit > > Ethernet on the board would be to get Power-over-Ethernet, > > which you don't get from a CF card. > > I'm prepared to be convinced otherwise, but, for the moment, no > > built-in Ethernet... > > Having just been to a talk extolling the virtues of POE I did think 'that > would be nice on balloon' - the only truly international standard power > source. But I wonder how it would fit in with the already numerous power > options. And it would probably be 2 chips - the ethernet one and the POE > one. > > I do miss ethernet...but USB provides most of the same functionality. > > Wookey > -- > Aleph One Ltd, Bottisham, CAMBRIDGE, CB5 9BA, UK Tel +44 (0) 1223 811679 > work: http://www.aleph1.co.uk/ play: http://www.chaos.org.uk/~wookey/ > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > From: "Nick Bane" > To: "Wookey" , > "Balloon" > Subject: RE: [Balloon] Re: Processor update to XScale > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 22:52:11 +0100 > > > Tricky. I'm trying to keep Balloon3 cheaper & easier to=20 > > > manufacture than Balloon2 was. Adding chips to the board which=20 > > > not everyone wants, and which can be added at least as cheaply=20 > > > on a CF card, needs some justification. The only reason I'd fit=20 > > > Ethernet on the board would be to get Power-over-Ethernet,=20 > > > which you don't get from a CF card.=20 > > > I'm prepared to be convinced otherwise, but, for the moment, no=20 > > > built-in Ethernet... > >=20 > > Having just been to a talk extolling the virtues of POE I did think = > 'that > > would be nice on balloon' - the only truly international standard = > power > > source. But I wonder how it would fit in with the already numerous = > power > > options. And it would probably be 2 chips - the ethernet one and the = > POE > > one. > >=20 > > I do miss ethernet...but USB provides most of the same functionality. > >=20 > And bear in mind that we have usb master on pxa270 so that we aren't = > limited to usbnet hosts for connectivity. Doesn't help power of course. > > Nick > > > Wookey > > --=20 > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > From: Steve Wiseman > To: Balloon > Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:43:59 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Balloon] Re: Processor update to XScale > > 08/09/2004 21:57:49, Wookey wrote: > > >Having just been to a talk extolling the virtues of POE I did think > 'that > >would be nice on balloon' - the only truly international standard > power > >source. > > Err, scrounging power from a USB port is also quite universal, > certainly during development. It's one of the best things about > USB, especially on desktop PCs - vast amounts of 5(ish) volts > sloshing about. > > >But I wonder how it would fit in with the already numerous power > >options. And it would probably be 2 chips - the ethernet one > and the POE > >one. > > It's not that much extra area, and it's possible that the PoE chip > could be used as the general purpose high-voltage supply input, > too. (The PoE spec allows some pretty wide tolerances on the > voltage seen at the port). Bear in mind that Ethernet also requires > a huge RJ45 socket (which may contain the magnetics & LEDs, but > it's still a lot of area. There's also the question of where to put the > connector - a perennial problem on Balloon - which side is a user > likely to want pointing out of their case, if any? > > >I do miss ethernet...but USB provides most of the same > functionality. > > CF-card ethernet works very nicely, both wired and wireless, so > it's easy enough to get your fix. It's notable that neither of the > commercial customers that I know of want / fit Ethernet except > during development. > > Steve > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Balloon mailing list > Balloon@balloonboard.org > http://balloonboard.org/mailman/listinfo/balloon > > > End of Balloon Digest