We sent a few boards (balloon2) back to Barric after ChrisJ and I and XJTAG (mostly Chris) identified various faults. 3 of them had 'can't talk to the Xilinx over JTAG at all'. Even though at least one had clearly had it working in the past as it was programmed and booting. I was mildly amazed to find that replacing the xilinxes has made all three boards work fine. We have a couple more like that so I am encouraged to go and get them spannered too now. Wookey -- Aleph One Ltd, Bottisham, CAMBRIDGE, CB5 9BA, UK Tel +44 (0) 1223 811679 work: http://www.aleph1.co.uk/ play: http://wookware.org/