Hi Roman, I'm in the exact same situation as you (Samsung MLC chip, ubi and ubifs with power cut problems). I would be also very interested in this information. Boaz. Romain Izard wrote: Hello, I'm currently working on a device that has reliability problems on NAND MLC flash, and that must run in an embedded environment. A former decision chose UBI+UBIFS for the flash file system, but this is not working as well as I would like. I fear that the problem is due to the fact that UBI does not handle the problem of paired pages properly, as it is stated in the documentation. The main problem with paired pages is as follows: - The multiple bits stored in a NAND Flash cells correspond to bits located in multiple pages in a NAND erase block - These pages are not contiguous in the writing order of the block, but are interleaved with other groups of related pages - An interruption (power cut, reset, etc.) during a write operation for a page will not only corrupt the contents of this page, but also the other pages that share the same NAND Flash cells. If the power cut occurs when we are writing to a page whose group already has programmed pages before, we will also corrupt those pages. This problem may not be present in all MLC NAND Flash chips, but it exits on the Samsung chip I am using, where each cell contains 2 bits, and writing to the second paired page puts the first one at risk. I tried to see what was done in YAFFS2 for paired pages management, but after browsing the documentation, and especially the "NAND Failure Mitigation" document, I did not see any information on the subject. A rapid overview of the code did not give any additional information. However, I noted that even though the documentation states that it is a work in progress, MLC NAND is considered as working with YAFFS2. Is this problem managed specifically ? Or is it that the structure of the file system makes the problem irrelevant ? I'm interested in any information on this subject. -- Romain Izard _______________________________________________ yaffs mailing list yaffs@lists.aleph1.co.uk http://lists.aleph1.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/yaffs