well the reason i wanted to make ballon manualy is that my financial state is very low (ew are very poor) i have no money to buy a real pc so i tought o could make my own with the help of my father (he was an electrician) and the reason i wanted to make it by hand is that i dont have enough money to by the tools necesary do you know where i could get a really really really cheap board? and posibly a screen? hope you do... --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!