Re: [Yaffs] Why does YAFFS skip the first block?

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Author: Charles Manning
Date:  
To: Peter Barada
CC: Yaffs
Subject: Re: [Yaffs] Why does YAFFS skip the first block?
On Wednesday 22 June 2005 12:13, Peter Barada wrote:
<snip>
> > All is not lost though, there is a way to use that block zero, and it is
> > pretty straight forward. You just need to tell YAFFS some lies!
> >
> > All yaffs flash calls go through a few access functions.
> > All you need to do is to do a mapping in these functions so that yaffs
> > block 1 = physical block 0.
> >
> > eg.
> > int (*writeChunkToNAND)(struct yaffs_DeviceStruct *dev,int chunkInNAND,
> > const __u8 *data, yaffs_Spare *spare)
> > {
> >       chunkInNAND -= dev->nChunksPerBlock;

> >
> >      .....   // rest of stuff
> > }

> >
> > int (*eraseBlockInNAND)(struct yaffs_DeviceStruct *dev,int blockInNAND)
> > {
> >     blockInNAND--;
> >     ...// rest of stuff
> > }

> >
> > Now you must need to keep the illusion going by setting up the device
> > start and end blocks accordingly. If you have, say, 32 physical blocks
> > numbered from 0 to 31, then just set up startBlock=1 and endBlock =32;
> >
> > There is no chunk or block info imprinted in the actual YAFFS data, so no
> > changes are needed to mkyaffsimage etc to make this work.
>
> Ugh, that sounds like a *total* hack.


So what? It is very simple, works fine, is efficient and does not disrupt
stable code.

As it is, you're already pulling nastier hacks to emulate spare regions etc
to make NOR look like NAND.

>Is there anything wrong with
> allowing dev->startBlock to be zero instead of 1?


This would not work for various things.
For example when YAFFS goes to look for the chunkId of the chunk in chunk
zero, the search code would report "it is in chunk zero" which the rest of
yaffs interprets as "it does not exist". So anything you write to chunk zero
is written into a black hole.


>
> I *could* do the remap in the access functions, but it *assumes some
> magical offset that requires a comment of:
>
>     /* This is a total hack since YAFFS refuses to use block zero */


Hack, maybe. Total hack, I think, is stating it a bit strongly.

Any offset is fine so long as there is no logical (ie from YAFFS's point of
view) chunk zero any more. Just using a one block offset is the simplest
case. Counting from one instead of zero is hardly going to make most
programmers spill their cup of tea.

You can just use fixed constants in your mapping: Offset by one block. Since
dev->nChunksPerBlock holds the number of chunks per block that is all you
need to offset by for the reading/writing of a block.

This means, all up, you need to add three lines of code:

    blockId--; // add to the erase function


    chunkId -= dev->nChunksPerBlock; // add to read/write functions


And change two lines where you set the start and end blocks.

Changing five lines of code is hardly a large effort. Much less than, say,
writing an email.


>
> Is there anything *actually* wrong with using block zero? If what you
> say is true for NAND, then you don't even bother using the one
> guaranteed good block in the device...


There is nothing technically wrong with using block zero from a memory/NAND
perspective. At the end of the day, file system integrity is governed by the
performance of the worst block and not the best block. Block zero is only
guaranteed good at the time of shipping and can go bad with time. Also,
many/most systems use block zero for some other purpose (eg. boot data or bad
block marker). Thus, relying on chunk zero being good is pointless.

Yaffs needs some chunk/block Id for "does not exist". As I mentioned before,
this could have been 0xFFFFFFFF/-1, but there are places (eg. Tnodes) where
YAFFS uses 16 bit values. Using 0xFFFFFFFF as an invalid marker gets to be a
headache when using 16 and 32 bits because we'd have to look at special
cases. Zero is way easier.

Now this mapping stuff could be done in YAFFS so that YAFFS would be able to
start at block zero, but this has not yet risen to the top of the important
things to do pile, mainly because the workaround is trivial (which implies,
of course that fixing it in YAFFS is trivial too :-)).


-- CHarles