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> 1. husaberg downage (Jenny Hopkins)
> 2. RE: Processor update to XScale (Solutions IT WireScale)
> 3. Re: Processor update to XScale (Steve Wiseman)
> 4. Re: Processor update to XScale (Wookey)
> 5. RE: Re: Processor update to XScale (Nick Bane)
> 6. Re: Re: Processor update to XScale (Steve Wiseman)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:54:03 +0100
> From: "Jenny Hopkins" <Jenny@toby-churchill.com>
> To: "Balloon@Balloonboard.Org" <balloon@balloonboard.org>
> Subject: [Balloon] husaberg downage
>
> Dear=20Ballooners,
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> I=20have=20to=20take=20husaberg=20(www.toby-churchill.org)=20offline=20for=
> =20maintenance=20for=20a=20short=20while.=20=20
> I=20suggest=20I=20do=20this=20on=20this=20coming=20Friday,=20Fri=2010th=20=
> September,=20from=20around=209.30=20a.m.=20=20If=20all=20goes=20well=20it=20=
> should=20be=20back=20up=20and=20running=20within=20a=20few=20hours.
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> Thanks,
> Jenny
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> Message: 2
> From: "Solutions IT WireScale" <info@wirescale.com>
> To: <balloon@balloonboard.org>
> Subject: RE: [Balloon] Processor update to XScale
> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:25:27 -0400
>
> sounds good...
>
> I called 2 distributors here in the US (and Canada) http://www.digikey.ca &
> http://www.future.ca to ask them about pxa270 availability. The first only have
> pxa255 and the second neither of them!
>
> I'm very interested and ready to contribute/volunteer in the dev/test
> of balloon3.
> Is that possible?
>
> btw, are you planning to add integrated ethernet support to balloon3?
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Bane [mailto:nick@cecomputing.co.uk]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 4:32 PM
> To: Solutions IT WireScale; balloon@balloonboard.org
> Subject: RE: [Balloon] Processor update to XScale
>
>
> >
> > I'm new to the list...
> >
> > Since StrongARM 1110 becomes unavailable, are you planning to
> > update the board
> > processor to Xscale?
> >
> We have an Intel mainstone dev board for pxa270.
> I have ported much of 2.6.8.1 to use it and have memory, audio and usb master
> running with some pcmcia and mmc infrastructure too.
>
> > If yes, which XScale processor and when the update would be available?
> >
> pxa270. Target launch to the massess at Xmas. Development of balloon3
> has started.
>
> Nick
>
> > Are you planning to develop your own processor, since processor
> > lifetime is short,
> > using an existing IP-core or something like that. Not sure if it
> > is possible
> > though...
> >
> > thanks
> >
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> Message: 3
> From: Steve Wiseman <steve@steves-house.org.uk>
> To: balloon@balloonboard.org
> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 09:45:31 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Balloon] Processor update to XScale
>
> 08/09/2004 04:25:27, "Solutions IT WireScale"
> <info@wirescale.com> wrote:
>
> >I called 2 distributors here in the US (and Canada)
> http://www.digikey.ca &
> >http://www.future.ca to ask them about pxa270 availability. The
> first only have
> >pxa255 and the second neither of them!
>
> Yeah, but they're both pretty broad-line distributors. The silicon
> does seem to be available from the specialists.
>
> >I'm very interested and ready to contribute/volunteer in the
> dev/test of balloon3.
> >Is that possible?
>
> Possibly - what's your area?
>
> >btw, are you planning to add integrated ethernet support to
> balloon3?
>
> Tricky. I'm trying to keep Balloon3 cheaper & easier to
> manufacture than Balloon2 was. Adding chips to the board which
> not everyone wants, and which can be added at least as cheaply
> on a CF card, needs some justification. The only reason I'd fit
> Ethernet on the board would be to get Power-over-Ethernet,
> which you don't get from a CF card.
> I'm prepared to be convinced otherwise, but, for the moment, no
> built-in Ethernet...
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:57:49 +0100
> From: Wookey <wookey@aleph1.co.uk>
> To: Balloon <balloon@balloonboard.org>
> Organization: Aleph One Ltd
> Subject: [Balloon] Re: Processor update to XScale
>
> +++ Steve Wiseman [04-09-08 09:45 +0100]:
>
> > >btw, are you planning to add integrated ethernet support to
> > balloon3?
> >
> > Tricky. I'm trying to keep Balloon3 cheaper & easier to
> > manufacture than Balloon2 was. Adding chips to the board which
> > not everyone wants, and which can be added at least as cheaply
> > on a CF card, needs some justification. The only reason I'd fit
> > Ethernet on the board would be to get Power-over-Ethernet,
> > which you don't get from a CF card.
> > I'm prepared to be convinced otherwise, but, for the moment, no
> > built-in Ethernet...
>
> Having just been to a talk extolling the virtues of POE I did think 'that
> would be nice on balloon' - the only truly international standard power
> source. But I wonder how it would fit in with the already numerous power
> options. And it would probably be 2 chips - the ethernet one and the POE
> one.
>
> I do miss ethernet...but USB provides most of the same functionality.
>
> Wookey
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> Message: 5
> From: "Nick Bane" <nick@cecomputing.co.uk>
> To: "Wookey" <wookey@aleph1.co.uk>,
> "Balloon" <balloon@balloonboard.org>
> Subject: RE: [Balloon] Re: Processor update to XScale
> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 22:52:11 +0100
>
> > Tricky. I'm trying to keep Balloon3 cheaper & easier to=20
> > > manufacture than Balloon2 was. Adding chips to the board which=20
> > > not everyone wants, and which can be added at least as cheaply=20
> > > on a CF card, needs some justification. The only reason I'd fit=20
> > > Ethernet on the board would be to get Power-over-Ethernet,=20
> > > which you don't get from a CF card.=20
> > > I'm prepared to be convinced otherwise, but, for the moment, no=20
> > > built-in Ethernet...
> >=20
> > Having just been to a talk extolling the virtues of POE I did think =
> 'that
> > would be nice on balloon' - the only truly international standard =
> power
> > source. But I wonder how it would fit in with the already numerous =
> power
> > options. And it would probably be 2 chips - the ethernet one and the =
> POE
> > one.
> >=20
> > I do miss ethernet...but USB provides most of the same functionality.
> >=20
> And bear in mind that we have usb master on pxa270 so that we aren't =
> limited to usbnet hosts for connectivity. Doesn't help power of course.
>
> Nick
>
> > Wookey
> > --=20
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> From: Steve Wiseman <steve@steves-house.org.uk>
> To: Balloon <balloon@balloonboard.org>
> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:43:59 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Balloon] Re: Processor update to XScale
>
> 08/09/2004 21:57:49, Wookey <wookey@aleph1.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Having just been to a talk extolling the virtues of POE I did think
> 'that
> >would be nice on balloon' - the only truly international standard
> power
> >source.
>
> Err, scrounging power from a USB port is also quite universal,
> certainly during development. It's one of the best things about
> USB, especially on desktop PCs - vast amounts of 5(ish) volts
> sloshing about.
>
> >But I wonder how it would fit in with the already numerous power
> >options. And it would probably be 2 chips - the ethernet one
> and the POE
> >one.
>
> It's not that much extra area, and it's possible that the PoE chip
> could be used as the general purpose high-voltage supply input,
> too. (The PoE spec allows some pretty wide tolerances on the
> voltage seen at the port). Bear in mind that Ethernet also requires
> a huge RJ45 socket (which may contain the magnetics & LEDs, but
> it's still a lot of area. There's also the question of where to put the
> connector - a perennial problem on Balloon - which side is a user
> likely to want pointing out of their case, if any?
>
> >I do miss ethernet...but USB provides most of the same
> functionality.
>
> CF-card ethernet works very nicely, both wired and wireless, so
> it's easy enough to get your fix. It's notable that neither of the
> commercial customers that I know of want / fit Ethernet except
> during development.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
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